Christmas is the time for giving, and the Salvation Army says the numbers of needy are growing, but their kettles are not filling. Major Robert Keene with the Salvation Army says last year donations were down about 15%, and this year is about the same, but now they have a longer list of families. “Well, last year we helped 1700 families and we're almost up to 2000 families already. And that translates into about four people per family, so we're talking 6,000, 7,000, 8,000 actual individuals." Keene says the bell ringers with kettles will be at some bigger stores like Safeway, Wal-Mart and Fred Meyer through Christmas Eve. Also, remember that the “Santa Express” also helps the Salvation Army. Santa will be riding in a fire engine through various Bend neighborhoods tonight and tomorrow night, to receive your donations of food, clothing, toys and money.