The Oregon Department of Transportation has a three prong approach to making roads safer during big winter storm. They use deicer, cinder on the roads, and snow plows. Still, ODOT's Peter Murphy says there are always some "trouble spots" on the roads: “And we try to get out there bright and early, but we don't cinder every thing, we don't plow everything. So as you get up on the hill towards Klamath Falls, you'll find places where there is no cinder there is no deicer, so you just need to do the right thing with your car at the time." He says you need allow for extra time on your trip; driver slower, and be on the lookout for stubborn patches of ice or snow. Murphy says one consistent trouble spot is on the Santiam Pass near Lost Lake.